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Rediscover yourself, find your passion, and live your best life with Jessica Kisphaugh
How do you feel about your relationship with food? Whether it’s your eating habits, emotional eating, or feeling guilty every time you eat a cookie. It’s time to change your relationship with food and reclaim your time. Get off the scale and own your worth! No matter what you eat. It’s just food. You have unconditional permission to eat food. Eat towards your own goals.
Feel like your life is a little stagnant and that it could be more. What makes you feel alive and like you are living a purposeful life. It is sometimes necessary to ask the hard questions to grow. It’s time to eat and FEEL good about yourself.
Nourish your body, mind, and soul. Let’s love our bodies.
ABOUT OUR AMAZING GUEST, JESSICA!
Jessica Kishpaugh is a Holistic Nutritionist, Emotional Eating Coach & Mindset Coach.
With an intuitive eating and self care approach, Jessica coaches women to let go of dieting and emotional eating so they can create happier, wholesome, balanced lives. She helps clients uncover the psychology and behaviors behind why they are stuck and empowers them with confidence to live a life of health, body positivity and freedom.
Jessica received her integrative nutrition health coaching certification and specialization in emotional eating from one of the top health coaching schools, The Institute for Integrative Nutrition and a certification in exercise nutrition from Precision Nutrition.
Jessica practiced law for 11 years as an attorney in New York City, and then transitioned careers, following her passion for health and wellness. She obtained her Juris Doctorate degree from The Catholic University of America and graduated cum laude. Jessica obtained her undergraduate degree from Cornell University and graduated magna cum laude with a degree in Communications and Psychology and an Honors Research Thesis distinction.
Jessica is a mom of three young children and she helps similar busy moms implement family wellness practices and healthy living strategies into their lives. Jessica is a runner and a triathlete, a Disney fan, enjoys the outdoors and loves to travel
What if you had unconditional permission to eat food, what if you didn’t feel guilt or shame when you picked up that bag of Oreos and oh, crap ate the whole thing. We are talking with Jessica today. Holistic nutritionist, emotional eating coach and mindset coach. We are digging into all the deep goodies of emotional eating your eating habits and how you really do have unconditional permission to eat how to love your body except your body, and be you for you.
So let’s dig in, you’re listening to feed your business with love with Jen dragon net. You are about to experience a tsunami of self-love in your life. And. Because we have too much magic inside to just be a ripple, let go of society’s standards. And those gurus who leave you burned out, put aside any imposter syndrome feelings and ask yourself, what is it you really want?
Because success starts from within rediscovering yourself, builds confidence in your message and who you are. Your tribe will follow. Let’s unleash the magic inside by being our true, authentic. Starting podcasting for your soul in three, two Y. So a welcome to the podcast, Jessica. Thanks, Jennifer. It’s great to be here.
I am actually really excited, um, to go into this conversation because intuitive eating and food and all the things are definitely something that’s near and dear to my heart. But I want to start with my favorite opening question, which is in this moment, in your life for this time in your life right now, what’s that thing that’s lighting you up the most.
Oh my goodness. What a question? Um,
You know, it’s funny. I, I always kind of talk about and think about that right around the turn of the new year, like reflecting on the prior year and, and, and not looking at it as like, what did I not do? Like what did I not do to add to my to-do list or to be lists in the next year, but, and like, cause it was a lot of people do carry that over, but I think that.
Reflecting back to see growth that happened for me over 2021 and look into 20, 22 as I don’t want to use growth again, but it’s like continued growth, like continued flourish. That was my word. Right. So I always come up with a word. I think it’s very common for people to do that, especially in like the business world and entrepreneurial world.
Like, that’s my word for 20, 22. And I think that’s, what’s really lighting me up, like how to go from growth to flourish and, you know, Like continue on a trajectory of helping, you know, as many women as possible, get out of their own way and really live like that life of optimal health and, you know, optimal happiness that they are, that they desire.
Um, and so that’s, I think that’s, what’s lighting me up is this like this possibility of. You know, like, like a flower, right? Like opening up and like really branching out and expanding and growing and flourishing and that sort of visual. Those are really powerful words, expanding flourish opportunities. I, that’s a great way to go into a new year.
Totally. I’m excited for 2022. I feel like it’s going to be a great year. I mean, everyone everybody’s had these mixed feelings, but I’m like, I really feel like we got enough twos in there. It’s gotta be a good year, a hundred percent. Like it’s time. We’re all owed some, some good moments right now. Right. I want to know a little bit about your story.
Cause I know that you said that you were an attorney at one point in time and now you are, you know, you’ve totally shifted. So there’s gotta be a story behind that. Oh my goodness. Um, I can try to make this as a bridge just possible. Um, so I practice law in New York city for close to 10 years. Um, the latter portion of that, I dabbled in sort of my own personal.
Um, physical and mental transformation is what I can kind of call it. I was someone who struggled a lot with body image and weight and emotional eating, um, and tried all the things, the diets and all the things, um, and sort of discovered like kind of rediscovered myself and in the process realized like, I don’t know how cursing is.
That’s fine. But I was about to go down that line. we are an explicit podcast here, so, um, but I was, you know, it’s like, oh, hell, like, like, I, I don’t like my job, but I don’t like. Not only my job. I don’t like the law. Not really sure why I came down this road or this pathway I’ve spent 10 years practicing as an attorney.
The first few were fun because I was a prosecutor and it was like very law and order. But I was also like in my twenties, single living in the city, like fun life. Right. And so as that changes, you know, You know, that became overworked, underpaid, stress burnt out. Um, and then no longer actually practicing the type of law that was even interesting.
So it was very unfulfilling. It was extreme. And then I, and then I had a family and so getting married and having children and, and going through this personal physical transformation mindset, transformation, you know, um, working on myself and my own personal development and understanding like how important that is.
Our lives, right. I was like, whoa, like shit needs to change. Um, and so first. Um, I dabbled in like a little side business, which kind of led me down a, uh, a further path of personal development, um, which then led me into going back to school. And so, um, My first stop was, and we were talking about this before, but the Institute for integrative nutrition, um, and along the way, you know, becoming certified as an integrative health coach now, you know, a holistic nutritionist and diving into further just certifications, um, when it comes to nutrition, emotional eating, hormone health, like really finding this crux of.
You know, women who I love to help. And it’s because I struggled in that area really, really badly. And I was able to find a way out. Um, but that’s, that’s, that’s the short of it. I mean, and that’s a huge transformation. And I think that’s what a lot of people are starting to realize, which I think, you know, like, although it’s been crazy, this has been like the great awakening of self.
And you said something was so powerful is that you rediscovered yourself. And you know what I feel, I find that I work with women who on average. Mid to late forties, give or take. Um, and so many women at this stage of life are rediscovering themselves and finding their true passions and making changes and changing in changes in their careers, changes in their, in their passion and changes in their life purpose.
It’s incredible. When you can really go deep and explore yourself and actually live your passion, find out what your passion. I have a friend. Who wrote a book about passion, like finding your passion and purpose. And, you know, I just finished reading his book and it was, you know, it’s wonderful. Like it’s, it’s that’s life when you can actually live and breathe your passion and purpose.
It’s why I do a lot of value based work. Like we need to know, like, you need to know what what’s important to you. What, what, like, what, what you said, like what lights you up, right? What lights you up so that you can actually live each day feeling, you know, Alive and with purpose that feeling alive, I didn’t know.
I wasn’t alive feeling that way until last year. And that is, that is really important. And I’m excited that you’re giving this back to other women. So I want to know, like in the realm of you’ve come through being a lawyer, now you’ve gone through all these integrative holistic approach to. Um, approaching life, basically like living in a wellness state where you are really lit up and like, I call it Tingley.
I feel like when I’m alive, I feel like that Tingley energy. What is your favorite thing that you love helping and supporting with like Adam, all the things that there was just like one little thing. What would it be?
Oh my gosh. Um, that’s great question.
I liked the ask the disease hard ones. You’re like me. I ask hard questions. I do, because asking hard questions is where you grow. And I can appreciate that. What is my favorite thing to watch? Um, I mean, I think when it comes to all right, so we’ll, I’ll just answer as it relates to my clients. And so most of the women I work with have.
Some sort of struggle with, um, food behaviors, emotional eating, or some sort of emotional relationship with food. Right. So maybe it’s not emotional eating, but maybe they just feel really guilty every time they eat a cookie. Okay. Where like they don’t have, um, You know, intuitive eating habits or skillsets yet.
So they just eat mindlessly. And then I ended up overeating and they don’t really realize, and this was me a lot of the times they don’t really realize there’s this like emotional attachment. Um, and anyway, so I think what some of my favorite things to see when I hear wins and successes, are that feeling of like emotional release.
Like detachment that food has on people that food has on women, where they can eat and feel really good about it, where they can eat intentionally and not. Rely on the scale to dictate their own. Self-worth where they can actually let go of the scale where they can actually eat a cookie and be perfectly fine with that, where it doesn’t bother them either way.
Or they can say no to a piece of, you know, chocolate cake. Um, either like it doesn’t bother them either way. They don’t even really think about it. It’s just like either yes or no. And it’s like not a big deal. Right. Whereas, you know, they struggled for so long with sneaking food, hiding food. Eating food and secret, um, over eating the food, eating a couple of bites and then being like, fuck it.
I’m just gonna eat the whole thing because I gave up and I cheated on my diet and now, like, it doesn’t even matter. So let me just go out of this, like spiral out of control. And now like my whole progress has been derailed and like, and then they’re like life falls apart because of like one bite of cake when that no longer happens.
It’s awesome. Like, it’s awesome to see that people are in control. Again, people are like, these women are like, They’re living their lives intentionally again, because that, that skill it’s not just applicable to intuitive eating. It’s not just applicable to their eating behavior. It’s so applicable to all of their.
To their various aspects of their lives and you see it. I see it. I see it have this ripple effect. I see it as it pertains to their relationships. I see it as a pretty to their kids, to their, to their jobs, to their careers, to their businesses too. And it just, it hits all these different areas because you start to live more intentionally, like more present, more mindful, more just aware, right.
Of that present purpose. And that’s what lights me up. Like that’s, what’s really exciting and just, I love. That’s so cool. And that’s a really good point, is that like, we don’t really think about how much control food has over us through many of, many of our lives. I mean, I grew up, I probably started my first diet when I was five, you know, and then while I did my training at aim, Every one of them was offered just because I was like, okay, I need to shift this, but it does free up so much space to bring in other things when you allow it to be what it is fuel.
Yeah. 100% I can I share something that’s to you? I’m going to bring it up on my computer because this is what lights me up. So you asked, I will give you a. It’s pretty awesome. Hang tight. Um,
okay. So this is a woman who just last week was really struggling. She was fairly new into my world and it’s my program. Okay. Um, she was really struggling with diet behavior and just really like setting strict standards for herself and letting know. I feel always feel like she’s on a diet that is restrictive and that’s hard.
And of course it’s hard because you’re setting unrealistic standards for yourself. And so this is a woman last Friday, she almost had like a meltdown. Okay. So just in literally less than a week, she writes this. I don’t know, what’s really happening to me, but I feel so much calmer. I’m not sure how to describe this.
I feel lighter in my body and also in my head, in my thoughts, it feels great. Excavation, mark. I’ve been going to bed earlier. I’ve been keeping my goal. I’m not checking my phone before bed. This is amazing. That’s intentionality. Like that’s what I’m talking about. Right? It’s like, it’s, it’s like that. I call it like food freedom.
But it’s freedom because it trickles into other areas of life. Yeah. And it does, it really does. And the amount of time that you get back, when you stop worrying about all the things, how many points is this? How many calories is this? What’s my macro count. This is good and bad. I mean, for me, when I finally broke free and started doing intuitive eating, which I would like you to go a little bit more into, because not all my audience understands intuitive eating, but it was just like this.
All of a sudden I had all this free time and I’m like, what am I going to do with this free time? Like, I don’t know. I hadn’t played fun and you know, more work, but you know, like it does free thing. So what is like this intuitive eating for those people that don’t know. So that’s a great question. So I guess the best way to, to, to understand intuitive eating is, you know, it’s.
Ultimately being able to listen to your body and listen to, and there’s a lot that goes into that, right? There’s a lot of skills that goes into that. Okay. But ultimately it’s able to listen to your body, listen to your mind, listen to yourself. It like intentionally listened to yourself and understand what do I need and then seek it.
And with that, You know, comes, you know, unconditional permission to eat food. You have permission to eat food, right? Um, not being on like strict diet plans or having forbidden foods or getting mad at yourself because you ate something like a cookie, um, or controlling cravings and having that and having actual control over it because you’re actually not feeling the cravings anymore.
Um, Also eating for physical reasons, not emotional ones. So that’s the emotional eating aspect where you are again in tune with your hunger in tune with your fullness. Um, so eating when you’re hungry and really thinking about when you’re not right. Um, you know, whether it’s not soothing your negative emotions or, you know, not eating when you’re stressed out and finding other outlets and skills that will allow you to alleviate your stress or when you’re bored.
How do you handle that when you’re lonely? How do you handle that? Right. Um, and also like eating towards your optimal health goals. So whatever your optimal health goals are, how do you, um, you know, how do you nourish your body? What are you doing to nourish your life? What foods, what lifestyle choices are you using to nourish yourself?
Right. That’s intuitive eating. And with that comes a lot of self-respect, you know, self nourishment, um, body positive body image, um, really respecting your body, loving your body, loving yourself. Um, yeah, so I think that. I think that’s good. Just a decent, it is an explanation of like what that actually entails and what that means.
And, and again, like there’s so many skill sets. As it relates to how to apply that and how to learn that and what that actually means. Like there’s a lot of, I mean, that’s, you know, obviously like that’s what I do with clients, but, um, but that’s the, that’s the overall achievement that happens. Yeah. And that, that’s a great way to attunement attunement, to self attunement to the body and allowing yourself to actually feel the emotions instead of trying to cover them up with like, oh, I’m going to go eat this bag of Oreos.
It’s nothing wrong with eating the bag of Oreos, mind you, but if you’re doing it because you don’t. I feel something for me, that was the biggest thing was like, I, all of a sudden had to like, feel anger, feel sadness because it wasn’t, uh, I wasn’t filling my pie hole with, to overcome my emotion. Totally.
100% and listen, like we all have emotions and like, life is hard. I’m a mom of three kids. They’re little. Like my dad died last year. Like life is fucking hell. Okay. Like, let’s just be real right now. Um, and if I didn’t have these tools and if I wasn’t in the place where I am, like my life would probably be falling apart.
Yeah. I mean, I, and I’m always, I will show up, honestly, I will be honest with everyone. Like, I’m always very transparent about that, but like, life is hard. And so we need to know how to navigate these things. If those are the coping mechanisms that you’re relying on. Yeah. Yeah. And, and really is so much it’s freeing.
Like you’ll get so much time back from yes. Could you imagine, like, if you’re the type of person who, and that’s the other problem is I think that so many women also struggle with, um, there might not be the emotional component as, as it relates to like stress or boredom or loneliness or those things, but they’re always thinking about food.
And this was me. This was me. Every piece of food that went into my mouth was analyzed, written down, calculated math, thought about thought twice about thought three times about before putting it into my mouth or thought about again, after I put it into my mouth, I mean the constant food obsession, thinking about it.
There’s so much mental energy that goes into that. When you can free that up when you can release that from your mind. Yes. Like you do recline clean back time because you’re reclaiming back so much mental energy that you’re, that you can focus on other things in your life. Right. And it, it’s amazing. I recommend everyone reach out to Jessica help with intuitive eating, because if you’re complaining that you don’t have enough time in your day and food is consuming your time, you have a lot of free time.
You just don’t know it yet. It’s true. It’s so true. So where can people find you since I just said to come reach out to you? How I, um, so I guess the. The best ways I run a Facebook group called love yourself journey. So please come join us and you can always reach me on Facebook or Instagram. Um, Jessica Kish, paw hat, Jessica Kish, paw.
Those are probably the best ways. Um, I’m also really responsive to email, which is Jessica at Loyola, honest.com. Um, so any of those places. I will, I will personally respond to you. I am in there every day. I love hearing from people just to hear what’s going on. I love hearing your stories, right? I love answering your questions, right.
So, um, yeah. That’s awesome. So I also wanted to ask you a question cause we had a little conversation before, and you mentioned before we went live, you mentioned boundaries. And I think this is a huge thing for many of us. I mean, boundaries with food boundaries, with people, boundaries, with our time boundaries, with our business.
Um, most of this audience is women entrepreneur. I, I want to know, cause I know that boundaries is one of those things that also lights you up a little bit about boundaries and like how you found your ability to set the boundaries that make you feel. You know, happy without all the things that you don’t, that aren’t serving you.
So how I apply boundaries, is that what you’re asking? Okay. Um, so I think that it’s really important to, um, do two things. One is really get comfortable with the word. And I’ll explain what that means. And then to really get a good understanding of what your values are. So I talk about values all the time.
I teach values, we do value based work and value based exercises in, in the program that I offer with my clients and why those two things are important is one, when you know what your values are, which means, you know, what’s important to you and you know, what your priorities are, you’re able to spend your time focusing on that, and then you’re able to set boundaries.
Um, it also helps with time management, by the way, that’s a huge time management factor. If people are struggling with time, values-based work is going to be like, Critical. Very critical. Okay. So once you know those things and you really get clear on that, um, and again, there’s skill sets around that. Um, you can a, you can know how to set the boundaries because you know what you want to focus on, you know, what’s important to you, you know where to spend your life and your spending your time and how to spend your time again, time management.
Right. Um, but also you, you need to give yourself permission to say the word now and why, because. When you don’t, then you’re no longer living your values. You’re giving yourself away and you are over obligating yourself, perhaps to other people, to other situations, to other commitments. Um, and so as it relates to me, like allowing myself to say, no, Because that’s in alignment with my values has been a game changer.
And sometimes that’s hard saying no to your mom saying no to your in-laws saying no, you’re, you know, like say no to people that love you and that you love can be difficult, but it also is setting boundaries. It’s setting the expectation of like, this is how I function. This is how my life works. This is what’s important to me.
These are my. And I need to be true to myself. I need to be true to my values. I need to be true to maybe my business. I set boundaries in my business as well. Um, because if I didn’t, if we didn’t have boundaries, could you just like, like think, think of it, like think of yourself as an individual, like compare it to, you know, a company that has systems.
And if you were to say the system, like the operation of a company, um, is like the boundary. So if we didn’t have systems, if we didn’t have a company, didn’t have systems and operations, like, you know, Starbucks didn’t have like the certain recipes to make certain lattes. And like the, their baristas were just like doing whatever the fuck they wanted to do and making things, however, like the whole company would crash and burn.
You need systems and operations in order to like run your business effectively boundaries of the same way as an individual, you need boundaries and systems to run yourself. Like effectively, efficiently and, you know, with ease, you know, that’s, I think that’s the best way to, I don’t know, is that like a decent analogy is there to just came up with that, but like it’s, you know, I, yeah, I think that’s, that’s you have to just be able to create time and space, um, for yourself and to be able to, to really live into what’s important to you.
And you said some of my, one of my favorite words is with ease. Like, let’s do this with ease I had is that is like, my life goal is like, let’s do life with ease. Come on. And I think that word, no, it’s the scariest word using it, especially as a. Recovering people pleaser to call it. No is so hard. Cause you’re like some people won’t like me and it brings up so many other things, which I’m sure I love you.
They’ll still love you. And they’ll probably respect you more when you can set boundaries. Like if I could now home, anything to take away, you know, setting a boundary and whether it’s the word, no. Or just however you want to say it, like whatever verbiage you want to use, but again, it’s creating the boundary.
There is a mutual respect that happens when you can get that for yourself. So, but you’re no longer being the one who’s being walked all over or, you know, no longer being the one who’s able to focus on your values, your priorities, your self care, your life. Yeah. And I think, I, I feel like as women, that’s, it’s a harder for us.
I don’t know if that’s true or not, or if I’m just saying that because I am a woman that I’m like, I feel like it’s harder for us to set boundaries. I feel like men have really easy time saying no all the time. It depends. I think it depends, right. It depends on the man. Um, but yes, I would say women moms in particular who are always there for their kids, like that sort of person, um, It’s difficult.
It’s difficult, but it’s not impossible. Difficult, but not impossible. I like that. Yes. Everything is possible if you want it to be. Absolutely. I love that. So if someone were to walk away with just that one, like little like Mike drop golden nugget that you wanted them to take with them for the rest of their lives, what would that.
I like that we ended up boundaries because that could be it. Right. It’s you know,
I talk about taking action. So like, you can learn all you want. You can listen to every podcast, you could take all the courses, you can join all the Facebook groups. You can do all the trainings. You can keep learning and learning, but when you don’t take action, your life’s not going to. And so if you want something to change, you actually have to do something and taking action.
Doesn’t have to be hard either. So I talk about imperfect action, a lot, doing one, doing one thing today that will serve you doing one thing today that will benefit your life. Doing one thing today, that will be an improvement toward your. Weight loss goals doing one thing today that will be improvement towards your health.
Doing one thing today, that’s an improvement towards your relationship with your spouse doing one thing today, that’s an in alignment with those values that are important to you taking action, right? Yes. I am a like perpetual student. I love learning. I’m a geek for knowledge at thirst, for knowledge. You have to take action and it’s okay to take imperfect action.
It’s not a scary.